Dell 2001FP 20" LCD Monitor Review

[Ginny]

Rogue, the code is CNK8JSHMCQSSLR. It expires at 11:00 CT tomorrow.

[captainkrusty]

Damn, I wish I could do this deal! My wife would either kill me, leave me, or do both if I did this right now.

Hmm, maybe it would be worth it?

JC

[CAG]

Mmm...if I'm counting this right, looks like Ginny had the 1000th post in this thread :)

[Ginny]

The 1000th post--cool! Is there a prize? (As though all the good information and help available on this forum weren't prize enough!)

I'm looking forward to learning the delivery details for my monitor tomorrow.

[CAG]

No prize, Ginny, but I did toast the event earlier today with a cold beer...not that I need an excuse to have a cold beer on a warm Sunday afternoon ;)

[CAG]

Originally posted by captainkrusty
Damn, I wish I could do this deal! My wife would either kill me, leave me, or do both if I did this right now.

Hmm, maybe it would be worth it?
If you're unsure of her reaction, JC, stick with one panel...I'm sure wives have left/killed their husbands for lesser reasons :eek:

[Ginny]

Then the event has been well-observed, CAG.

[miCro]

Thank you all for the good info on this board.

I'm upgrading from a really old 15" lcd, and i decided partially based on these forums to buy the dell 2001FP, as I managed to get it for $644, shipped.

UltraSharp 2001FP 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand Qty: 1
Unit Price: $849.00
Dell Home Customers: Save 20% off This Dell Flat Panel Monitor!
Expires on 2004-10-21 05:59:59 - $169.80
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Expires on 2004-10-17 23:59:59 - $35.00

i found a coupon code that got me 35.00 more at www.xpbargains.com/dell_coupons/

(not sure about linking policy here...)

a couple of the deals are expiring soon (some today, some next week)

[SlipperySnowman]

Well I bit the bullet too... 697$ was my final price...I had to pay state tax of 53$...argh...but my price before shipping was the same 644$. Guess we found the same code...such a bummer my buddy bought his last monday for 779$.... I'll let you know when mine arrives..I'm a hardcore UT04 player so my review will be very subjective.

[macburner]

Just got my Dell 2001FP.
Yup reading through all the posts in this thread definitely affected my purchase! Thanks guys!

i got mine 3 days after placing an order online! Sales staff were extremely helpful.

Happy to report that i'm very pleased with it! No dead/stuck pixels, uneven backlighting or screen door effect. It's perfect!! (at least to me!) FYI, it's a REV A00 dated September 2004!

i tried it on 2 of my PC systems...one running a Matrox G550 and the other on a Radeon 9600SE. Using the DVI connections, i could not get a 1600 x 1200 resolution when using either card. I'm stuck at 1280 x 1024 (max).

One of the main reasons for buying this is the 1600 x 1200 resolution. So i had no choice but to use the Analog VGA connection from the Matrox G550. After tweaking, it looks pretty good(coming from a Matrox??) but i was wondering if it could get any better with a DVI connection at 1600 x 1200. i know most of you swears by a DVI connection at this native resolution....and some posts show a definite improvement when switching over to DVI...So guys..help me decide which graphic card i should get?

I'm not a hardcore gamer so i don't need the latest and the fastest. Just excellent 2D and text reproduction. And priced as cheap as possible please...

Please share your experiences and reviews on your setup.
Hope to hear from you soon....Thanx!

[jeffpriz]

I just took advantage of Dell's temporary insanity on Wednesday and used their 40% coupon to order a new 'puter and of course, got this monitor with it (should get here Wednesday.. please no dead pixels!)
I'm very excited about this monitor!

Also, due to that deal, I'm sure there are more than a couple people out there taking advantage of this deal, and Ebay'ing the monitors.. (I'm keeping mine!)

[Stainless]

Originally posted by jeffpriz
I just took advantage of Dell's temporary insanity on Wednesday and used their 40% coupon to order a new 'puter and of course, got this monitor with it (should get here Wednesday.. please no dead pixels!)
I'm very excited about this monitor!

Also, due to that deal, I'm sure there are more than a couple people out there taking advantage of this deal, and Ebay'ing the monitors.. (I'm keeping mine!)

I took advantage of that deal last week also. 40% is craziness, isn't it? I had ordered a system the previous week, the details of which are a couple of pages back, with a 25% off coupon code I got from fatwallet. I was surfing Wednesday and noticed the 40% off coupon. I called Dell to see if I could get a price adjustment. They said the only option would be to cancel my pending order and place it again using the 40% off code. I upgraded my warranty from 1 to 3 years, got a Wireless Keyboard and Mouse and the Klipsch 5.1 Ultra Promedia speakers, all for $300.00 less than what I had paid the week prior.

I'm all giddy about it.

Does Dell ever do more than 40% off? Buyer's remorse is bad, very bad.

[Lumpydog]

All:

My 2001FP won't go into stanby mode - the screen saver comes up but the monitor never shuts down/goes to sleep mode.

I'm using an ATI 8500 w/DVI. Has this been seen before?

-C-

[firstadopter]

Macburner, try downloading the latest drivers. There should be no reason your ATI 9600 or Matrox G550 can't handle 1600x1200 in DVI mode.

[jeffpriz]

Originally posted by Stainless
I took advantage of that deal last week also. 40% is craziness, isn't it?
...
...

Does Dell ever do more than 40% off? Buyer's remorse is bad, very bad.

Yeah that coupon code was sheer madness on their part (Thanks to fatwallet i didn't miss out on it!)

I built a 3.2GHz; w1gig DDR2, 2x160gb HD in RAID 0 (striped = 320GB); 16x Dual Layer DVD+R; Geforce 6800 GT pci-x; and the 2001FB monitor...
(not quite as hardcore as yours Stainless ;) but plenty fast enough me thinks )

total price after the $99 shipping rebate: $1650

The thing that made me take the plunge on this system (I had intentions of making my current system last another 6-9 months) was the idea that i could get that 20" lcd .. i am SO dieing for it to come in..

I don't think they run any deals better than that 40% .. it's insane enough.. i don't know how they could've made any profit on this machine as it is...

[Stainless]

I had never heard of fatwallet until a few weeks ago. I'm a big fan now, I must say.

I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas. My system isn't supposed to arrive until the 1st week of November, but I'm hoping it makes an early appearance. I've always gotten laptops from Dell within a week. This is the 1st time I've ordered a workstation from them.

My price, after the shipping rebate, is going to be 2624.90. When I initially started configuring Dell's XPS system, a memory upgrade, a harddrive upgrade, a videocard upgrade and a 19" CRT upgrade would have put me very close to that price, if not over. Now I'm getting dual hard drives, one of them being a screamer, a 20" LCD, the best sounding 5.1 PC speaker system available, or so I've heard, wireless keyboard and mouse & a 3 year warranty. It helped that the free upgrades they were offering at the time of purchase included 1 gig of ram and a 2nd bay DVD Burner. Considering I have yet to lay my eyes on it, I'm pretty happy with my purchase.

I hope it doesn't sound like I'm gloating, but I can't help it. I'll never again buy anything online without first checking fatwallet.

[Ginny]

Originally posted by macburner
[ i know most of you swears by a DVI connection at this native resolution....and some posts show a definite improvement when switching over to DVI...So guys..help me decide which graphic card i should get?

I'm not a hardcore gamer so i don't need the latest and the fastest. Just excellent 2D and text reproduction. And priced as cheap as possible please...

Please share your experiences and reviews on your setup.
Hope to hear from you soon....Thanx! [/B]
I was about to post the same question. My 2001FP is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'm sure I'll want to upgrade my graphics card soon, but to what, for best text reproduction? I'd appreciate hearing pros and cons as well as recommendations. Thanks in advance.

[macburner]

Originally posted by Rendition
Macburner, try downloading the latest drivers. There should be no reason your ATI 9600 or Matrox G550 can't handle 1600x1200 in DVI mode.

Hi Rendition...

Thanks for the reply..
I'm already using the latest drivers for both cards.
Seems like it's a hardware limitation rather than a software issue.
Unless someone has done 1600*1200 DVI with either of my cards?

And btw, i have the SE version of the 9600...not the 9600 or 9600Pro.

[Lumpydog]

All:

A few more details on my 2001FP's failure to go into standby/sleep mode.

1) I'm using the DVI cable
2) I set the screen saver to 2 minutes
3) I set the Monitor Shut Down to 3 minutes

The screen saver displays continuously.

Is the problem:
1) WinXP - it keeps sending the Screen Save signal
2) The Video card - it's not cutting the signal and going to sleep mode after 3 minutes
3) The monitor - somehow it's not going into sleep mode when told to do so by the PC

HELP!

-C-

[CAG]

jeffpriz,

Welcome to the board :) Thanks to you and Stainless for the fatwallet tip...I've bookmarked it.

CAG

[CAG]

macburner,

Welcome to the forum :) I'm not that familiar with the 9600SE but I would think that it would support 1600X1200. Anyway, go into the ATi Control Panel and see if it does.

CAG

[CAG]

Originally posted by Lumpydog
All:

A few more details on my 2001FP's failure to go into standby/sleep mode.

1) I'm using the DVI cable
2) I set the screen saver to 2 minutes
3) I set the Monitor Shut Down to 3 minutes

The screen saver displays continuously.

Is the problem:
1) WinXP - it keeps sending the Screen Save signal
2) The Video card - it's not cutting the signal and going to sleep mode after 3 minutes
3) The monitor - somehow it's not going into sleep mode when told to do so by the PC

HELP!

-C-
See if this Microsoft KB article (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306676) helps.

CAG

[CAG]

Originally posted by Ginny
I was about to post the same question. My 2001FP is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'm sure I'll want to upgrade my graphics card soon, but to what, for best text reproduction? I'd appreciate hearing pros and cons as well as recommendations. Thanks in advance.
See if the panel works OK with your present card...there may be no need to get a new one. But if you want to get a new one, let us know what card you have now and your pc's system specs. This will make recommending a new card easier :)

CAG

[macburner]

Originally posted by CAG
macburner,

Welcome to the forum :) I'm not that familiar with the 9600SE but I would think that it would support 1600X1200. Anyway, go into the ATi Control Panel and see if it does.

CAG

Thanks for the reply CAG.

Here's an update.
I got an email reply from Matrox tech support and they have confirmed that my G550 can only handle max DVI @ 1280*1024.

I have downloaded the latest ATI catalyst drivers and now my 9600SE can run at 1600*1200 @32bit colour!! Problem solved!

[Ginny]

Originally posted by CAG
See if the panel works OK with your present card...there may be no need to get a new one. But if you want to get a new one, let us know what card you have now and your pc's system specs. This will make recommending a new card easier :)

CAG

The monitor arrived this afternoon. I've been too busy playing and just generally admiring it to as much as install the drivers. Even in its out-of-the-box state, it looks great. There is only one errant pixel that I can see, and it's visible only against a black background, not against my normal blue. I am a very happy camper!

CAG, you're probably right about my not needing a new graphics card, at least not right now. I don't do much with a computer that's graphics intensive. If I get to that point, I'll provide the system specs as you suggest.

Thanks again for the information and the encouragement I needed to order a monitor sight unseen. I'm really pleased.

[Rogue]

Ginny,

A bit more of encouragement. If you have a bad pixel, I would contact Dell and ask for a replacement. They will send a replacement at no charge. When it arrives, check it out and keep the better of the two. My first one was horrid, the second was/is perfect. For the amount of money, expect perfection.

But no matter what, I am gald that you like the panel, they are beautiful.

[macburner]

Just a tip for those who got problems with ATI cards and Dell2001FP. I was having problems with DVI @ 1600*1200 before i saw this...

Taken from a thread in another forum...
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=338883


Perform the following steps to resolve the problem:
Download and install the latest ATI Catalyst drivers here.
Click Start | [Settings] | Control Panel | Display.
Click the Settings tab, then click the Advanced button.
Select the Options tab.
Click to enable the option Reduce DVI frequency on high-resolution displays. If a warning appears, click Yes or OK.
Click Apply and OK. Close out of the Display Properties.
Restart your computer.

[Lumpydog]

Originally posted by CAG
See if this Microsoft KB article (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306676) helps.

CAG

Thanks CAG - I ended up messing around with it while watching the ALCS game 5. I gave up and went to bed (after the Sox won - wohoo!). I came home last night from work and sleep mode was working. I must have made some change that fixed it. All is good (including the fact that the Sox won game 6).

Loving this monitor. My older 20 inch CRT is now being used on my Kid's PC and man does that sucker look blurry when I sit in front of it.

-C-

P.S. To all you Yank fans - enjoy the game tonight. Should be a hell of a game. Best team will move forward.

[CAG]

Glad you got it fixed, -C-. For something on the Yankees/Red Sox series, see my new thread in "The Lounge" forum :)

[macburner]

Got a Gecube Radeon 9250 today to replace my 9600SE.
Installed it in my P3 1GHz machine and the 2D results are as good if not better than the 9600SE! Very pleased with the quality!

Text is razor sharp. tweaking the Cleartype settings helped a lot!

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/1.htm?fname=%20&fsize=


the 9250 is perfect for non-gamers who do mainly 2D stuff like surf net, watch DVDs. Low cost and value for money.

Check out the 9250 reviews and shootout...

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1638

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/control.php?cid=3&id=1238&src=3rd

[kengod]

I've been looking to purchase a new computer for the past several months. I first wanted the new Dell w1900 TV for a monitor but I quickly changed my mind based on the feedback of this thread. Thank You!! Well, I finally pulled the trigger on a new computer system a few days ago that included the 2001FP. Couldn't pass up a great deal when I saw it. I purchased it via the Navy Exchange website. Total price was $1843.40. Nice thing, there is no shipping and sales tax charges. This similar computer purchased on the dell website is approx $1000 more, and that included free shipping. Here's a breakdown of some of the key items:

Item Description
Dimension XPS: Pentium® 4 Processor 550 with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB)
XPS Specialized Support: Dimension XPS, Specialized Support
Memory: FREE UPGRADE! 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz (2x512M)
Keyboard: Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse
Monitors: 20.1 in 2001FP Dell Ultrasharp™ Digital Flat Panel Display
Video Card: 128MB PCI Express™ x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon™ X800
Hard Drive: 80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
2nd Hard Drive: 80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices: 3.5 in Floppy Drive
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2
Mouse: Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package
Network Interface: Integrated Gigabit Ethernet
Document Management: Adobe® Acrobat® Elements 6.0 - Publish
CD or DVD Drive: Dual Drives: 16x DVD + FREE UPGRADE! 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ dbl layer write
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy™2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Speakers: Dell 5650 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System with Subwoofer
Productivity Software: WordPerfect®, Powerful Word Processing
Security Software: Norton Internet Security™, 90 day trial
Digital Music: Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software
Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options: 1Yr Ltd Warranty, 1Yr At-Home Service, and 1Yr Technical Support

[sHAZBOT!]

sweet!....enjoy

[CAG]

Welcome to the forum, kengod :) You don't suppose the Navy Exchange would let an Army vet. like me go shopping, do you? Anyway, great rig...being a part of the military does have its percs.

CAG

[CAG]

Originally posted by macburner
Got a Gecube Radeon 9250 today to replace my 9600SE.
Installed it in my P3 1GHz machine and the 2D results are as good if not better than the 9600SE! Very pleased with the quality!

Text is razor sharp. tweaking the Cleartype settings helped a lot!
Looks like you're all set macburner...enjoy :)

[Lumpydog]

I was driving behind someone with Mass plates "CAG"

:)

[CAG]

No...the guy must be an imposter...the genuine article is right here in Florida :D

[Silo]

Well I read all 100 or so pages of this thread a couple of weeks back. I also read NUMEROUS reviews of the 2001FP. I regret doing all of that. I was really worried about the SDE, dead pixels, ATI problems, yadda yadda yadda. This is my first LCD to own.

I got my monitor in 2 days before our monthly LAN party. Needless, to say, I was the envy of the event. ;-) This screen is amazing for gaming. Any ghosting that may occur is negligible. Actually, I can't really see any at all. I was worried about ghosting too, since I am a lifelong CRT user. heh.

Readers, know this: THIS IS AN AWESOME LCD! SDE is a joke. Anyone that complains about that needs to lean back or lighten up. I think I can kinda see what people are talking about. Anyway, I had 1 dead pixel. After a little seducing (aka massaging) it fired back up. I *think* I have a few stuck sub pixels. But the ONLY time I can notice this is while running the LCD test...and even then only when I'm staring really hard and really close at the screen. So all in all, I am perfectly content with this monitor to say the least.

1600x1200 is glorious. I used to run 1280x1024 on a 17" CRT. I've still gotta adjust my habits so that I fully take advantage of all this real estate. ;-) I find myself sometimes using 1 firefox window full screen. Then I think *DOH* I could be browsing 3 or 4 at the same time. I promptly tile a few windows out. ;-)


To any potential buyers: You won't go wrong with this screen. It is a superior product, particularly for gamers wishing to go the route of an LCD for convenience.

[CAG]

Welcome to the forum, Silo :)

Congrats on your new panel and I agree with you 100% about SDE. BTW, how do you compare Firefox with IE 6?...I installed it but I haven't had the time to play with it.

CAG

[Stainless]

My system shipped this week and is currently scheduled to arrive Thursday. I feel like I'm in a ketchup commercial.

[CAG]

Stainless...a review when you get it.

[jeffpriz]

Whew! I finally received my machine last night (after quite a mess with Dell!). But all the anticipation was well worth the reward.

What a great monitor!

I was like a kid in a candy store lifting the panel out of the box.

I set up the computer, put the monitor on it's stand and fired it up! and ... nothing! OHH! in my giddy rush i guess i didn't seat the DVI cable completely into the monitor.. so after correcting that mistake i was rewarded with a bright, clean, crisp image!

I'm coming off of a 17" CRT flat screen Trinitron that I had been driving at 1024 x 768... so the 1600x1200 resolution here will take a little getting used to, but it's not bad.

I was only able to spend a short time with it last night, but the 1st impression is very strong. I fooled around in windows, surfed the web, and played a few minutes of a DVD (my my my how nice is this thing to watch a dvd on!) . I did a little bit of an inspection and found no faulty pixels, but i didn't run any good solid test yet...

all in all, I'm very glad I went this route so far!

When I get some more time to play this weekend i'll fire up some games and see how that goes, but i think (after watching the dvd) that everything will be quite fine!

[CAG]

Congrats, jeffpriz :D. Don't forget to vote in the "Dead Pixel" poll...the one's you can't see don't count (my rules).

CAG

[LordStryker]

Well after a month now of me being very happy with my 2001fp, the dreaded thing we all feared happened. I return from class to see something odd on my monitor. Thought it might be a hair or a piece of dust, but no. 2 distinct areas where dead pixels now appeared, dead center in the monitor. One spot is like an upside down "u" and are a permanent light blue color. The other spot is about 1/2" over and are 3 dead pixels in a row. I counted the pixels and got about 8. 5 in the "u" and the 3 dead ones in a row. How common is it for this many pixels to just go crazy and freak out like this? Its driving me nuts. Im gonna have to call Dell and see what they say. Still got the original box it came in. *sigh*

[MonkeyG]

Hi All
I got my brand new 2001FP yesterday. One stuck pixel so nothing to worry about there, but I am concerned about the ghosting on static text/images. It doesn't always occur as it depends on the background colour. As I type here, I can see a faint vertical line to the right of the cursor. In the text box that I am typing in now, I can also see a faint line just to the right of the left border of the text box - another ghost affect.

On my desktop I have a blue background and the ghosting is apparent next to the icons on the desktop eg Folders, Outlook, recycle bin etc. I guess it is pretty faint, but what I want to know is whether this is normal for a TFT in general, or do I have a problem with my 2001FP? I've come from a 17" CRT and this is my 1st TFT screen so I have nothing to compare it with. Most people talk about ghosting effects due to speed, moving my windows around quickly and there is no ghosting - what's going on?

Thanks
MonkeyG.

[Stainless]

Originally posted by LordStryker
Well after a month now of me being very happy with my 2001fp, the dreaded thing we all feared happened. I return from class to see something odd on my monitor. Thought it might be a hair or a piece of dust, but no. 2 distinct areas where dead pixels now appeared, dead center in the monitor. One spot is like an upside down "u" and are a permanent light blue color. The other spot is about 1/2" over and are 3 dead pixels in a row. I counted the pixels and got about 8. 5 in the "u" and the 3 dead ones in a row. How common is it for this many pixels to just go crazy and freak out like this? Its driving me nuts. Im gonna have to call Dell and see what they say. Still got the original box it came in. *sigh*

I'm thinking your warranty should take care of you.

[macburner]

I also noticed this ghosting when i was using the Analog VGA connection. It was gone after switching to DVI.

What connection are you using?


Originally posted by MonkeyG
Hi All
I got my brand new 2001FP yesterday. One stuck pixel so nothing to worry about there, but I am concerned about the ghosting on static text/images. It doesn't always occur as it depends on the background colour. As I type here, I can see a faint vertical line to the right of the cursor. In the text box that I am typing in now, I can also see a faint line just to the right of the left border of the text box - another ghost affect.

On my desktop I have a blue background and the ghosting is apparent next to the icons on the desktop eg Folders, Outlook, recycle bin etc. I guess it is pretty faint, but what I want to know is whether this is normal for a TFT in general, or do I have a problem with my 2001FP? I've come from a 17" CRT and this is my 1st TFT screen so I have nothing to compare it with. Most people talk about ghosting effects due to speed, moving my windows around quickly and there is no ghosting - what's going on?

Thanks
MonkeyG.

[MonkeyG]

Yes, I'm using the Analog DSub connector. No DVI on my docking station :(

Has anyone else noticed this problem? Please see the thread below.

Thanks
MonkeyG



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I also noticed this ghosting when i was using the Analog VGA connection. It was gone after switching to DVI.

What connection are you using?




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Originally posted by MonkeyG
Hi All
I got my brand new 2001FP yesterday. One stuck pixel so nothing to worry about there, but I am concerned about the ghosting on static text/images. It doesn't always occur as it depends on the background colour. As I type here, I can see a faint vertical line to the right of the cursor. In the text box that I am typing in now, I can also see a faint line just to the right of the left border of the text box - another ghost affect.

On my desktop I have a blue background and the ghosting is apparent next to the icons on the desktop eg Folders, Outlook, recycle bin etc. I guess it is pretty faint, but what I want to know is whether this is normal for a TFT in general, or do I have a problem with my 2001FP? I've come from a 17" CRT and this is my 1st TFT screen so I have nothing to compare it with. Most people talk about ghosting effects due to speed, moving my windows around quickly and there is no ghosting - what's going on?

Thanks
MonkeyG.

[CAG]

Welcome to the board, MonkeyG :)

I agree with macburner. Using the DVI connection will probably clear this up...these panels were made for DVI...image quality suffers quite a bit with analog. You might want to connect it to another machine with DVI and guage the results.

CAG

[CAG]

LordStryker,

HERE'S (http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kb/en/document?dn=1018431) Dell's "dead pixel policy". With 8 or so dead pixels, you should be able to get the panel replaced under your warranty.

CAG

[macburner]

Originally posted by CAG
Welcome to the board, MonkeyG :)

I agree with macburner. Using the DVI connection will probably clear this up...these panels were made for DVI...image quality suffers quite a bit with analog. You might want to connect it to another machine with DVI and guage the results.

CAG

Definitely go for DVI! Dell has already provided the cable!
Even the entry level ATI Radeon 9250 does the job nicely for me!

Go for it!

[firstadopter]

How good does Xbox games play on 2001FP? Anyone try it?

[LordStryker]

Everything on the dell site asks for some sort of service tag. Well i dont have one as I bought this thing seperate from a system. In order to email them, I need a service tag. Dont really feel like spending 3 hours on the phone with someone from india that doesnt speak english.

[CAG]

LordStryker, try these:

support@dell.com

technicalsupport@dell.com

mobile-pc@dell.com (Syed corresponeded with me on this one)

basdsupport@dell.com (Nashima Gurung corresponeded with me on this one)

These are the email addresses I used or were sent to me when I was corresponding with Dell on various issues. They are fairly fresh (within the last 5 months). Having said that, I've had good results over the phone but maybe you should try the email route first. When sending them an email, give them things like your invoice no. and any other identifying info on your invoice. Any problems, post back.

CAG

[captainkrusty]

Im not sure if this is correct, but if it is, what a deal

http://www.dailyedeals.com/free_online_coupons/dell.htm

Dell Computer Up to $400 off Select Dell™ Flat Panel Monitors and TVs in Dell Small Business Software and Peripherals Use Link 11/3/2004

JC

[captainkrusty]

Hey everyone

Does anyone have any experience with this monitor? My mom needs a new monitor and I was going to get her one for Christmas and this seems like a pretty good deal.

Or if anyone has any other suggestions, I would appreciate those to

Thanks

JC

[CAG]

I have the 1702FP, the older version of this panel, and the image quality is excellent.

[CAG]

@ Dell SB here (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=320-1578&c=us&l=en&cs=04&category_id=5194&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)

[Stainless]

I wonder if a new & improved model is imminent. Considering that I just bought one, I can only conclude that "yes there is".

[CAG]

Read my last post in this thread (http://www.firstadopter.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=294) :)

[cvoytek]

Oh my I just ordered mine 10 mins ago after flip flopping for a month. If it's not up to my gaming standards (and the new one has better gaming specs) I think I have 21 days to return?

[CAG]

21 days from the shipping date...Dell puts out some good quality panels and the 2005FPW is probably no exception but I want to see some reviews before I decide to take the plunge...of course, I could get it and return it if I don't like it...hmm ;)

Let us know what you decide, cvoytek...you could be the 1st forum member with the 2005FPW :)

CAG

[cvoytek]

OMGOMGOMG

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/pressoffice/en/2004/2004_11_02_rr_000?c=us&l=en&s=corp

[CAG]

I saw that...Dell still hasn't posted it for sale yet but the $799 price is so sweet :D

[cvoytek]

It says its available as of today but not on their website yet. Do you see anything in the specs that would make it less of a gaming LCD than the 2001?

Heck if I'm paying 600 (and wife hasn't divorced me), i'd sneak another 200 out of checkbook and get the 12ms.

I'm thinking of calling in the morning and asking to switch the order.

[Stainless]

The resolution of the new panel doesn't appear to be as high.

[CAG]

cvoytek,

The specs say its faster than the 2001FP at least in grey-to-grey...it has a higher contrast ratio but a lower native res (although I'm not sure if either of those are relevant to gaming)...I've never had a widescreen, so I don't know what gaming would be like with the widescreen aspect ratio (the way I read the specs, the game would have to be optimized for widescreen). Get 'em both and return the one you don't want...Dell's very liberal about returning stuff and if your wife is going to divorce you over $200, give her something to really divorce you over...$799 :D.

[Stainless]

I'm wondering if I embellish a little, with regards to my dead sub-pixel, whether I can get Dell to send me the 2005FPW as a replacement and keep the better of the two.

I mean, how can I not notice the stuck red sub-pixel. It dominates like Shaquille O'Neal.

[CAG]

Stainless,

Forgive me for not remembering but did you get the 2001FP with the XPS?

[TheAngryIntern]

hi cvoytek!!! welcome to the forums. Glad i was able to help out a bit with your decision on the monitor!!

[Stainless]

Yes. The 2001FP came with the XPS.

Did you happen to see what that one guy paid for his XPS on the site you linked to in the Gen4 thread? He paid about 800 less for a comparable setup to what I ordered.

[CAG]

Stainless,

Since you're still w/in your 21 days, send the 2001FP back and either get a replacement 2001FP or ask them to send you the 2005FPW...but since your 2001FP came bundled with the XPS, you may have to pay extra for the 2005FPW. Alternatively, you can send back the XPS, monitor, speakers, and everything else that you pruchased with the "system", get your refund, wait until the Gen 4 is officially launched, and get it with the 2005FPW. :D

CAG

[cvoytek]

Thx for the help last night CAG and Angry. I'll let you know how I do today. Not sure if I'll just cancel the 2001fp and switch to the 2005 or cancel and wait for the first review of the 2005 and then re order.

[firstadopter]

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productlisting.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=04&category_id=5194&first=true

2001FP going for $599 in the small business section. FIRESALE!

[CAG]

@ Dell Home. Apply coupon code F8ZNN2TLLRBP0R at check out.

[jeffpriz]

I've seen pictures of the 2005fpw, but is it actually available yet? I haven't seen it for sale yet, so that might make it hard to get them to send you one.

If they are available already, i'd bet that Dell would take you 2001Fp back (since it's still new) and upgrade you to the 2005fpw for the price difference between the two ...

[CAG]

jeffpriz,

See the posts in the "2005FPW" thread.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hey guys, I thank you ALL for your posts. I just ordered mine, and it says it'll be delivered on the 22nd! :( (I hope it comes sooner :)) I have plenty of horsepower under the hood of my machine, so it should be really sick! I don't know that I had the bucks for it, but it just seems so worth it.
For those of you looking to buy the new widescreen monitor, I'd wait for the 2nd generation by Dell on that. It just doesn't really have all the features I'd like to see yet, but give it some time.

Anyways, thanx a lot guys, I totally appreciate it!

PS: My current machine is Intel Motherboard D915PBL w/ P4 3.4Ghz HT (1MB L2 Cache) X600XT Video Card (Obviously with DVI, which I am SOOOO looking forward to using ;) ) 1GB DDR2 533Mhz RAM I love it! For those of you looking for computer advice or help...I like to help people, so lemme know. www.reliefpc.com or PM (My online friends get taken care of nicely.)

[CAG]

Welcome to the board, AriZoNaiCe :)

Congrats on your purchase...give us your impressions when you get it. And, you're right, that's one powerful rig you have.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

I will be sure to give you my impressions...I have my hopes set really high, like most of you did. I know I won't be disappointed. By the way, can I get the no dead pixel chant? Seems to have worked thus far, why change, right? lol Anyways, thanx for the response CAG...You seem to really be into helping people out...I can totally relate and appreciate that. Thanx!

If you're on the fence about buying this monitor...Umm...Get off and get it! :)

[CAG]

Ok everyone, this is for AriZoNaiCe; so, repeat after me:

Please God, no dead pixels
Please God, no dead pixels
Please God, no dead pixels
Please God, no dead pixels
Please God, no dead pixels...

That should do it...(greatest dead pixel warranty goin' :) )

CAG

[Stainless]

Well, after roughly a week I would have to say that I like the 2001FP quite a bit.

I think I have one stuck, red sub-pixel, but I haven't checked lately. I may also have back lighting issues in the lower right hand corner. It seems quite a bit brighter than the rest of the display.

I don't really have any PC games. I have Links and I can tell you that my golf ball doesn't ghost.

Damn. I think I just found a dead pixel as I type this.

I think I might give Dell a call and see if they will ship me another one, or maybe even the 2005FPW.

Overall, I would give it a thumbs up, but they gotta do something about LCD's and dead pixels because they suck.

[CAG]

You're right on about dead pixels...let us know if Dell will give you a 2005FPW...they should since they're now bundling them with the XPS...but they may charge a few $ extra.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

Dell actually has better policy about returns with dead pixels...But ths't because they allow no-hassel returns, and people DO choose to make use of that. I would call them up and get it taken care of, but mention the backlighting issue a LOT more than the dead pisxel issue. Good luck, and keep us informed!

- Brian
www.reliefpc.com

[fev]

Great forum I just found tonight. Was interested in the 2001fp since reading about it on the Sharkey Extreme site. Have just about decided to pull the trigger but have a question.

Can you run satellite tv to the monitor? My desk is at the side of my media room, and was hoping to be able to have a 2 tv thing going with my projection tv and the computer monitor.

That's not to say it's the most important concern. Looking forward to gaming first and foremost.

[AriZoNaiCe]

I don't know about directly, but if you have a TV Tuner card in your computer you surely can watch some TV on it :) Also, you can do recording and lots of other stuff then too. I haven't received mine yet, but 2 friends of mine have it and they swear by it. Good luck!

- Brian
www.reliefpc.com

[CAG]

Originally posted by fev
Great forum I just found tonight. Was interested in the 2001fp since reading about it on the Sharkey Extreme site. Have just about decided to pull the trigger but have a question.

Can you run satellite tv to the monitor? My desk is at the side of my media room, and was hoping to be able to have a 2 tv thing going with my projection tv and the computer monitor.

That's not to say it's the most important concern. Looking forward to gaming first and foremost. Welcome to the forum, fev :)

Congrats on your purchase!...prices are so low now that I'm tempted to get another. I've never hooked up my monitor to a tv but, like AriZoNaiCe said, it should be OK. Let us know what you think of your new panel and, of course, if you have any problems, questions, etc., let us know.

CAG

[firstadopter]

UPDATE: Dell has contacted FirstAdopter.com and said 2001FP is NOT being replaced. Dell sees the 2005FPW as a new addition to their product line as their "wide-screen" LCD monitor. The email is as follows -

The 2005FPW does NOT replace the 2001FP. It is a new addition to our product line. It is Dell’s first widescreen, but we do feel customers will still want a 20” standard 4:3 aspect-ratio monitor, so we are not discontinuing the 2001FP, nor will there be a “firesale.”

[AriZoNaiCe]

Excellent post Rendition, I would have been VERY surprised if they were "replacing" the 2001FP simply due to all of the print it has generated. Clearly it is one of the leaders of its class, and it seems like it will be in that position for some time now. We'll have to wait and see what they can come up with next to make us abandon our gorgeous monitors :) I personally think that the only improvement they can make is a change in technology allowing for faster refresh rates...Response times may not need to get much lower than 12ms...Anyone with other ideas?

- Brian

[firstadopter]

I agree Arizonaice, the response time on 2001FP is fine. To me, it's the PERFECT monitor. No reason to upgrade at all.

Now if they came out with a 30 inch monitor, I may reconsider. :)

[AriZoNaiCe]

Holy Bejesus!!! 30"!!!!!!! hahaha...That's a TV man...Actually, that's larger than the TV I have in my apartment! Maybe I'd do that...Since I think all the technology is going that way soon...I'd say within the next 5 years or so, TV and computers will be combined. I think that will include other household things too, but it's hard to tell.

- Brian

[Chris G]

So now that the 2005FPW is out, what do you buy? The 2001FP or the 2005FPW?

grrrrr.........I was ready to get the 2001FP now this...but its a good thing....I think.

[CAG]

Its a tough choice, Chris G...The 2001FP is a proven quantity...fast, quality graphics...You couldn't go wrong by buying one (particularly at present prices). There are no reviews yet on the 2005FPW but my guess is that it will pretty much match the 2001FP in speed and quality. I guess the question is whether you want wide or full screen.

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hey Chris...I wanted to just jump in here because the last thing I read about the 2005FPW was that it had 25ms response time. Probably due to the fact that they can't use the same design as the 2001FP because of its size. Anyone who knows otherwise, let me know. I would link you, but I'm on my way out..Just got back from work, and now I have go to work...hehe I'll check back later and see if I can find anything. Good luck, tough decision. I was considering the 2005FPW, but decided against it because the 2001FP is just such an amazing piece of equipment. A few years down the road, widescreen will be more abundant and probably of higher quality.

- Brian

[CAG]

Chris G,

Brian is right about the 2001FP being amazing.

Brian,

When you can, give us the link to the 25ms thing. Every spec I've read says the 2005FPW is 12ms grey-to-grey and 16ms black-to-white.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

CAG,
Sorry...I was totally wrong. The 2005 is actually faster than the 2001FP. I am so tempted to change my order. However, I don't know how much better it really could be. I think I would prefer the 4:3 ratio for now. I can always sell it later if I change my mind, but I am going to take my own advice and wait to see what new things come along in the next year or two. Link for this sites description of the 2005FPW is below.

http://www.firstadopter.com/fa/archives/000377.html

[CAG]

Brian,

Check out akepa's post on page 9 of the 2005FPW thread showing a sketch of the the dimensions of the 2 monitors.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

I just did upon your suggestion, and let me say......WOW! I'm even more satisfied with my decision now..Thanks CAG!

- Brian

[Terminator_uk]

Hey folks!

I posted ages ago on this forum....the Dell 2001FP is a wicked screen but I have been riddled with bad luck along the way to getting a perfect one!

Dell 2001FP # 1

Had it for a couple of weeks but was plauged by a few bright, totally 'dead' pixels which annoyed the hell out of me and a weird 'grey' effect on the screen I couldn't get rid of and eventually sold it to someone on eBay who wasn't fussed about it.

Dell 2001FP # 2

With the money I got from the sale, I went back on eBay and found a reseller stating his screens were 'dead pixel free' so I bought one off him. He was right...there were no completely dead pixels but a couple of bright sub-pixels in places that weren't very visable ; still I was fine with these.

I had this screen for a few weeks and took it to uni with me and tried to set it up. As I moved the items in my room to the other side (I had just relocated my desk), I picked up the screen and walked with it over to the other side of the room but I tripped on a rouge shoe and nearly dropped the pannel.

In my attempt to save it, I caught the screen but put too much pressure in the upper right corner with my thumb when I gripped it and managed to do this:

http://uploads.savefile.com/redir/20058.jpg

Disaster! The TFT layer of the screen cracked from the upper right corner going towards the bottom left and in it's wake, disabled the right hand part of the screen :(

Distressed, I was hopping mad for an hour of so in dispair but suddenly remembered I had taken accidental damage cover out with Endleigh Insurance for all my possessions so I collected all the evidence and made a claim.

They came up trumps! Without any quibbles, they replaced my monitor which a new one which arrived today which leads to...

Dell 2001FP # 3

Perfect! Just a single tiny birhgt sub-pixel in a position you can barely see and perfect backlighting....I am delighted with my 3rd Dell 2001FP.

The only cool/bad thing (I haven't made my mind up yet) it is a SILVER Dell 2001FP ! I didn't think they came in other colours (maybe the silver ones are perfect?! :P) and it looks like this:

http://uploads.savefile.com/redir/20056.jpg

Looks pretty decent but is gonna take some getting used to :)


Anyway, I'm all sorted and very happy with my purchase...looks great for everything!

One question, I need to set the RGB values to tweak the colour on this monitor....what are the optimum settings for each one?

Regards,

Terminator UK

[Silo]

HOLY COW!

I want a silver one! How'd you get that!

It would match my case perfectly!

I've heard that some Europeans supposedly can get a silver one. Are you a Euro? ;-)

Hate to hear that you had such bad luck. I bet you put a hurtin' on that shoe though. LoL. At least you've gotten one you're happy with.

Oh, and on my 2001FP, the RGB settings looked the best at 50% for all 3. The other settings seemed to give everything a color shade.

[firstadopter]

That is some pretty awesome insurance! :)

[Terminator_uk]

hehe silo, just drop your screen and get insurance to replace it :P

No seriously, I dunno!

I am a 'euro' yes, I'm from the UK. However the first two I got were black...

This one was made in China though...not sure if it makes a difference or not.

On a side note, what settings are you using for your colours (Red/Green/Blue)in the monitor's menu....I'm trying to set it perfectly but somehow doesn't look quite right yet, any ideas?

[CAG]

Originally posted by Terminator_uk
On a side note, what settings are you using for your colours (Red/Green/Blue)in the monitor's menu....I'm trying to set it perfectly but somehow doesn't look quite right yet, any ideas? Its the glare off that silver bezel :D Happy to see you back, T._uk, and glad you got everything sorted out...very nice looking panel.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

First of all, congrads on your wonderful new montior! I'm glad you've finally gotten things straightened out. The silver looks pretty good, but my whole room is full of black furniture...My entertainment center, etc... Anyways, the most important thing about your story is to recognize how truly cool your insurance is! lol...Let us know how we can get some of that :) Anyways, good luck and thanks for the post and pics of the new color. Looks great!

- Brian

[Terminator_uk]

hehe thanks for the nice comments guys :)

Still no colour recomendations then?

@ CAG - ya cheeky bugger :p

[CAG]

Originally posted by Terminator_uk
Still no colour recomendations then? I thought Silo gave you some a few posts above. Anyway, the MonitorsDirect Calibrator HERE (http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/index.shtml) or something else on that page may be helpful :)

CAG

[bigskinny99]

I ordered mine last week (monday) It takes forever... still another 11/2 out!!
My current monitor just died :) Great excuse for the Wife!! lol
Just hoping for no dead pixels!! Ordered teh 2001 over the 2005
The thought of black bars down the sides and then only having a
viewable size of what 15'' maybe?
Looks like a good unit... Can't wait!!!
BTW. Do DVI cables work better than standard Agp?

[CAG]

Welcome to the board, bigskinny99 :)

I told my wife the 2001FP would be the last monitor I'd ever buy (hehehe). Anyway, you'll be blown away by this panel (and your wife will admire you for your good taste). And, yes, definitely connect the panel using the DVI connection...the image quality suffers with analog.

BTW..."Please God, NO DEAD PIXELS!"...that should do it.

CAG

[bigskinny99]

Thanks, CAG!!! Any good links for decent cables? I don't think they come with the monitor!! lol
Thank you in advance.

[CAG]

bigskinny99,

They come with DVI, analog, power, and USB cables.

CAG

[bigskinny99]

kewl.
I'll let ya know how it is when it arrives.
Ship date Nov 24 at least.
Not like ordering from newegg!!!
Dell takes there time!!! lol ( 2-1/2 weeks uggh!!)

[AriZoNaiCe]

bigskinny99,
Dell DEFINITELY does take their sweet old time :( I don't have mine yet, but soon enough :) Anyways, I'm gonna chant for ya..."Please G-d, NO DEAD PIXELS FOR BIGSKINNY!!!" Oh, and after my girlfriend got over the initial shock...And the fact that I showed her the monitor at my friend's apartment who has one...She got over it. That and I bought her a very nice early Christmas gift...lol Best of luck with yours, and we'll compare once we FINALLY get 'em.

- Brian

PS: Thanx CAG for helping us all with your hopeful chants!

[firstadopter]

I agree. Women tend to love the 2001FP too. They think its real sexy.

So forget jewelry, buy her a 2001FP!

[AriZoNaiCe]

hahahaha Rendition...That's what I'm talkin' about...Buy it for "her"....lolol

- Brian

[CAG]

My wife thought it was "nice" :confused: When will women understand the genetic link b/t "boys" and "toys"...

[firstadopter]

My wife actually loves the 2001FP. She said big CRT monitors like our old 19" Trinitron gave her headaches cuz of the radiation. ???

[AriZoNaiCe]

hahahah...Well, at least it worked out for you...Even if she's a bit off the mark with the radiation thing. The only thing I am worried about is getting headaches from the low refresh rate. Anyone having problems with this?

- Brian

[bigskinny99]

HEHE...
That's what I told my wife... CRT's are bad for your eyes!!! lol
Aren't they?!!?
CAG I'm in the same boat... showed my wife pic's and all she said
was "it's nice"
Honey it's not a cute little farm animal!!!
This is serious stuff!! She looked puzzeled?!!
Arizona (Brian) when is your ship date?
NO DEAD PIXELS FOR MR ARIZONA... PLEASE!!!

[pat8]

Got my new 2001FP today. So far very impressed. NO dead pixels, but I do have question. The right side of the screen (maybe the last inch or so) appears to be darker than the rest of the screen. Only noticable w/ a white background when you are looking at the monitor dead center (about 1.5 ft away).

If I move my head so I'm looking at the right edge dead on it appears normal. Is this something that's inherent w/ LCDs having to do with the viewing angel ?

Sorry for the newbie questions. Have other LCDs for my work desktop and laptop, guess I'm a bit more critical since I bought this one for my personal use.

[CAG]

It doesn't sound normal to me. I don't have it on my 2001FP and, as far as I can recall, no one on this board has reported a similar situation. You may want to get it replaced. Call Dell and let us know what their response is.

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

Abolutely Pat, get that sucker replaced...For the amount of money spent, there is no room for error. If mine's not perfect, I'll send it back. It's worth the wait to have a perfect 2001FP!!!!!! ;) As for my ship date bigskinny...Tomorrow. I'm hoping it gets here relatively early, DHL always comes at like 6:00PM :( Oh well...I've waited this long, right? hehe

- Brian

[pat8]

Thanks for the replies. After spending a day using the 2001FP and changing the color setting to user preset defaults the problem I mentioned is barely noticable anymore, I think it has a lot to do with this LCD screen vs a CRT.

I did compare it to my 18" Sony LCD at work, all I can say is there is no comparison. The Sony seems very washed out and drab compared to the 2001FP.

Think I'll sit still and give it a few days. I do have 21 days to request a replacement, right ?

Pat

[CAG]

Pat,

HERE's (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/policy/en/policy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010) Dell's warranty. Scroll down to "Total Satisfaction Return Policy"...you have 21 days from the date on your packing slip or invoice.

CAG

[bigskinny99]

Brian (aka Mr. Arizona! lol)
We have are fingers crossed for ya...
NO DEAD PIXELS!!!
Be sure to let us know.

BTW I'll be out of town til' Monday or Tues.
Good luck!!!!

[AriZoNaiCe]

bigskin...You're AWESOME!!! Thanx! Have a good and safe trip out of town. I'll post and let you know as soon as I do. As of 3:00PM, no 2001 yet :( But, I have confidence...The DHL site says it's out on the truck. Thanx everyone for the good luck, we'll see ;) I'm being optimistic!

- Brian

[CAG]

Originally posted by AriZoNaiCe
The DHL site says it's out on the truck.Could be any minute now...is that DHL knocking at your door!? ;)

[AriZoNaiCe]

Okay, I have my new monitor...And I absolutely LOVE the way it looks!!! I'll be completely honest, I didn't realize until now how unbelievably washed out and crappy my CRT looked! I do however have 1 small cluster of dead pixels...They're green, so they aren't dead, but hot I believe. They are in the lower left quadrant of my screen, and it's just 1 spot. I can really only notice it when it is a black screen, otherwise I have to looking and even then sometimse I can't find it. Other than that, I am amazed at the difference...It's unreal! I have to wait a few days and see if the hot pixels bother me. I can't tell yet, but we will see. Thanx everyone for your help, and this is so unbelievable! Anyone still waiting on theirs...You are seriously in for a pleasant surprise!

A special thanks to bigskinny and CAG...Thanx guys!

- Brian

PS: I don't know how it would have looked through analog, but my X600XT has been waiting for this moment to shine through its DVI port :)

[bigskinny99]

Hope those aren't bothing ya 2 much if so ...
You know the procedure!!!
Congrats Mr. Arizona!

I just hope my GeForce 4200 128mb
can run the 1600x1200
2.4 HT 1gig ram SATA 10,000rpm HD

Here it is May Mr Arizona's pixels be fixed!!!!

This will be my last post till monday or tues.
Good luck!!

[CAG]

Originally posted by AriZoNaiCe
Okay, I have my new monitorWell, I was pretty close on the arrival time...You've got some time with the panel to decide whether you can or can't live with the pixel thing...run it hard (if that can be done with a monitor) just to make sure no more dead pixels appear.

Congrats on your new toy, Brian. I've had mine 8-9 months and I still am amazed at how good it looks :)

CAG

[CAG]

Originally posted by bigskinny99
I just hope my GeForce 4200 128mb
can run the 1600x1200
2.4 HT 1gig ram SATA 10,000rpm HDYou won't have any problem.

CAG

[KnockOut]

I've own these monitors for 5 months but wanted to test them out before I write anyting on them. In a nut shell...I wouldn't trade them in for any screens on the market now. Their the best! I've played many games, including farcry and used graphic software without any problems or loss in quality.




http://img51.exs.cx/img51/353/IMG_267Smaller2.jpg

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http://img51.exs.cx/img51/2382/IMG_266smaller1.jpg

[CAG]

Welcome to the board, KnockOut :)

I'm lovin' it...do you have them both on DVI...how did you set them up...I know you can detach them from the Dell stands...I'm wondering if there is a stand around where you can put them side-by-side on one stand...

Thanks,

CAG

[KnockOut]

I have one on DVI and the other Analog. They each have their own stand. There is a stand out there that connects both of them but I don't know where to get it off the top of my head. Let me look around and see if I can find it for you...

Thanks for the warm welcome.


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DFI Lanparty UT nF3 250Gb
AMD 64 3200
ATI 9700 Pro
Audigy2 ZS Platinum Pro
Corsair XMS 2x512 RAM

[firstadopter]

Those are some knockout pics, KnockOut. :) Really sweet setup, I wish I could afford another 2001FP.

Since you work with it everyday like that, how does the DVI connection compare to the Analog?

I think Nvidia has new cards that have two DVI connectors just FYI if you're interested.

[firstadopter]

Knockout's awesome setup got me curious on what people do to make a living to pay for all this cool stuff. I mean two 2001FPs and an Aeron chair. Wow.

Please post on this forum below (What do you do for a Living?)

http://www.firstadopter.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=358

[KnockOut]

Originally posted by Rendition

Since you work with it everyday like that, how does the DVI connection compare to the Analog?



DVI output is much more sharper, brighter, and clearer compared to the Analog. I would recommend it to anyone...

[87 grand]

Just got my 2001FP, setup was easy, great color and sharp picture.

DVI cable is installed, but 1600 X 1200 res for print and icons look real small. I know it has to be that way, but it's hard on my eyes. Is there a way to enlarge the print ?

Thanks,
James

[firstadopter]

James,

Right mouse button click, click "Properties"

Click on "Appearance" tab on the top. You can then change the Font size on the pull down menu on the bottom. Welcome to the board!

[87 grand]

Ren..

When I right click, then prop, all I see on the next screen is the tab with general in it. Don't see anything to change fonts .

James

[firstadopter]

Right click on your desktop, not in Internet Explorer.

[87 grand]

Ren,

You're da man !! The picture is much easier to see.

Thanks,
James

[AriZoNaiCe]

The other option 87 grand is to actually lower the res to 1280x1024...I will be honest, interpolation sucks for the most part because it takes a smaller picture and just stretches it out to fit the screen...However, I will say that after looking at it on my new monitor, I was AMAZED at how good it looked interpolated to 1280x1024. I don't use it that way, but I was just curious. Compared to other LCD screens, the lower resolutions are at least bearable on the 2001FP. Hope you enjoy it! ;)

- Brian

PS: I own a small computer company to pay for mine :)
www.reliefpc.com

[curly]

Hi

I just ordered an 2001fp and i am very scared of dead pixels. I told the seller that i want him to ckech the svreen for dead pixels and hi promised to do so. What is you oppinoin guys? Is there anything to be afraid of and how can i prevent it...?

Thanx for any advice

/Curly

[CAG]

Welcome to the forum, Curly :)

I wouldn't worry about it now...if the panel has some dead pixels (the majority of them don't), post back and we'll deal with it.

Until then: "Please God, NO DEAD PIXELS!" (its been known to work ;))

CAG

[AriZoNaiCe]

Welcome Curly,

Well, there really isn't anything worrying will accomplish in this situation. Hopefully the screen has no dead pixels, and life will be great! (PLEASE NO DEAD PIXELS FOR CURLY!!!)

In the meantime, stop worrying about the pixels, and get excited about the beautiful new LCD Monitor you're getting! It's gonna be great!

- Brian

PS: You can't prevent dead pixels, sometimes they happen, and sometimes they don't. :(

[NEODARK]

Just ordered my 2001FP I cant wait for this baby, DAMN shipping times suck as its not even "scheduled" to ship until Dec 10th, ah well, soon enough, in the meantime... Give me the no dead pixel chant plz :D

BTW added to siggy for luck :p

Also, this is my first LCD, im a CRT gamer gone wild hehe, however I know and hear of dead pixels and I think i could just identify the defects if present (hopefully none are) but what software etc, you guys would recomend I use to check for imperfections on my LCD when I get it?

great thread and forum you guys have going here, cheers...

[curly]

I just cant wait to get this baby delivered to me...!!! Its gonna take line 2 weeks..seems unbearable...
/curly

[CAG]

Welcome to the board, NEODARK :)

You probably don't need it but to erase any doubt: "Please God, NO DEAD PIXELS!". That should do it ;)

CAG

[CAG]

Originally posted by curly
I just cant wait to get this baby delivered to me...!!! Its gonna take line 2 weeks..seems unbearable...
/curly In the words of Obe-Wan: "Patience, young Skywalker." ;)

[NEODARK]

if it makes you feel any better curly, mine wont be here til probably Dec 15th.. :p

oh and thanks for the welcome CAG :)

[curly]

Just for curiosity, how much did you pay for your 2001fp´s guys?

/Curly

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Plz God no dead pxls...

[CAG]

I paid $795 (w/tax) in Feb '04 and that was with a 30% discount...Dell was selling the 2001FP then for $1,089.

[curly]

I payed 700$ on ebay new in box with 3 years warranty...(and 120$) for shipping to Sweden (far, far north in europe....)

I think it was a pretty good price...

/Curly

[AriZoNaiCe]

Welcome NEODARK,

NO DEAD PIXELS FOR NEODARK...OR ANY OTHERS FOR THAT MATTER!! ;)

It is worth the wait...That's about all I can say. You will enjoy it, and gaming looks good...No noticable ghosting, and I didn't get headaches. Good luck, and be patient...Hopefully it's their testing process that keeps the dead pixels away :)

- Brian

[bigskinny99]

I'm back!!! lol
Tommorow is supposed to be the shipping date...
nothing is updated when I call...
I'm waiting for the old "I'm sorry your order has been delayed because of ________"
Going crazy with no puter at home!!!
I need this monitor already!!!

Mr. Arizona I hope yours is working good for ya,
and for NEODARK and Mr. Curly
NO DEAD PIXELS!!!! PLEASE!!!!
Me either!!!!

[Lumpydog]

I paid $674.81 - brand new shipped from Dell in October! Dell was running a few stackable promos and free shipping.

-C-

[KnockOut]

$850(w/tax) each when I purchase them back in June 04

[KnockOut]

Originally posted by CAG
I paid $795 (w/tax) in Feb '04 and that was with a 30% discount...Dell was selling the 2001FP then for $1,089.
What a deal!

[AriZoNaiCe]

I paid $640.00 shipped during a sale and a few stackable coupons. I was happy with that, but there actually may be some better deals on the way!

- Brian

[CAG]

Great price, Brian. Dell must be killing the competition.

[pat8]

Just thought I'd follow up. After getting all the color and brightness adjusted on my 2001fp I couldn't be happier. What a great monitor.

Thanks to everyone in the forum for all the great info and support.

Pat

[CAG]

Happy to hear things are going well with your new toy, Pat. Enjoy...:)

[NEODARK]

Thanks guys, oh and I paid $594.21

- 25% Off DELL LCD's coupon
- $35 Off on items over $350 coupon (from sickdeals)
- Free shipping (3 to 5 day)
- would've been even cheaper, but my tax was about $30

Although is worth noting that when I called to ask why my LCD wasn't shipping until DEC10th they offered to OVERNIGHT it as soon as is in stock... :D

-and of course, NO dead pixels for you all ;)

[AriZoNaiCe]

Pat, what were the final settings you went with...Perhaps I should give them a try. Although mine looks pretty sick right now as it is! :)

- Brian

[AriZoNaiCe]

For those of you interested in purchasing...It is now $554! And don't let us try and tell you how great of a monitor this is...Go ahead and buy it and you'll see for yourself. Nothing on the market compares!

http://www.slickdeals.net/#p5464

Follow that link for details on the pricing.

- Brian

PS: www.slickdeals.net is a great place. If you don't already go there on a daily basis, you should. I've been going there for around 5 years now, and I get deals that you wouldn't believe!

[bigskinny99]

It shipped out last night...
Hopefully Friday..................
PLEASE NO DEAD PIXELS!!!!!

[pat8]

Brian,
I went in and changed the color settings to user default (50/50/50 RGB). Then decreased the brightness to around 70. Looking good.

[AriZoNaiCe]

Thanx for the reply Pat! I will give that a shot. Definitely is a bright monitor :) I was almost blind when I initially turned that sucker on!

- Brian

[AriZoNaiCe]

Happy thanksgiving to everyone!!!

- Brian

[bigskinny99]

Oh where oh can my monitor be? Oh where can it be?!!
Said it shipped tuesday and I haven't heard ANYTHING
since??!!!
WTF are they doing???
Now that I have that off my chest...
Happy Thanksgiving!!!

I need my monitor... the one @ home is broken!!!
help B4 I lose my mind!!!!

[AriZoNaiCe]

Thankfully you should have it by tuesday...I'm sure it'll get there. Good luck, and still...NO DEAD PIXELS!!!

- Brian

[soybomb]

Whats the standard warranty for the 2001FP, 3 years right?

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hey soybomb, this was posted by CAG on 11/19/04...

"HERE's Dell's warranty. Scroll down to "Total Satisfaction Return Policy"...you have 21 days from the date on your packing slip or invoice."

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/policy/en/policy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010

Hope that helps...

- Brian

[bigskinny99]

The ball is in play!!
Arrived today. FINALLY!!!
Thought I had a few (dare I say it) pixels
Just a little dust!
I'm hesitant to say perfect, so far so good!!!
Gonna give her a few days and test it hard
Racing, flight simulator etc.

BTW: CAG

This forum has been a great resource for myself and many other people.
Once again. Thank You, CAG and Rendition!!
And Mr. Arizona too!!! :=)

[AriZoNaiCe]

I'm glad to hear that your monitor is finally there...You can't possibly tell us that it wasn't worth the wait! The monitor is beautiful I'm sure, and congrads on the no dead pixels. Enjoy it, and let us all know what settings you decide to go with for contrast, brightness and color.

- Brian

[LordStryker]

AHHHH HELP ME!!! I just got my replacement 2001fp from dell today and i switched it with the old one. Im using dual monitors right now and when i plugged in the new 2001fp it went to a lower resolution and both monitors were identical. So i increased the 2001fp to 1600x1200 and checked "Extend windows desktop to this monitor" BAM 2001 goes blank saying DVD-D "can not display this mode". Analog works fine, but all my icons and start menu are being sent out on the dvi port display so i cant change it back. If i right click and go to properties nothing happens. I assume windows is trying to display it on the 2001fp but i cant see it. A@#%@ help!

[firstadopter]

When you boot your machine, press the F8 key a few seconds after you turn on your computer.

A menu should come up. Choose SAFE MODE or VGA MODE, that way the OS will boot up in low resolution analog w/o your graphic settings etc.

From there you can switch back the graphics setting.

[LordStryker]

yeah thats what i did. and it worked temporarily. When i put the dell on 1600x1200 it craps out and gives me that error message. If i unplug it and plug in the old one it works just fine, other than the 10+ dead pixels. Starting to think dell sent me a bunk monitor

[firstadopter]

Make sure your display driver is Digital 2001FP NOT plug and play monitor.

You can download the 2001FP digital driver here:

http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&releaseid=r68954&fileid=89547

This driver fixed my DVI connection issue (sounds similar to yours) eons ago.

[LordStryker]

dont think thats it. i have monitor 1 as my viewsonic G810 and monitor 2 is my dell 2001 (digital). its resolution only works on 1280 x 1024. i kick it up to 1600x1200 and it goes black. I unplug it, plug in the old one and it works just fine.

Just re-installed the drivers with no effect. :( :( :( :( :( :(

[firstadopter]

Does 1600x1200 work if you have 2001FP as digital monitor 1 by itself?

If so, it sounds like its a graphics card problem, not a 2001FP problem.

[bigskinny99]

Oh ya, Factory defaults aren't bad for me.
My old monitor was a POS so I haven't even tried to play w/ brightness and contrast.
I am lovin' it!!!

[AriZoNaiCe]

LordStryker, I have to agree with Rendition. One major test you have to run and let us know of the outcome is the 2001FP by itself at 1600x1200 in digital mode. If that doesn't work, then you either have a bad monitor or some random problem with your video card. Let us know and we'll try to help as much as possible.

- Brian

PS: bigskinny...I knew you'd love it...We all do! ;)

[NEODARK]

Actually, it might also be your REFRESH RATE, did you check it was 60Hz @1600x1200?

you could try powerstrip too and try something like 1600x1200 @ 59.99Hz

sounds like youe LCD isnt synching correctly

[LordStryker]

It is running at 60 hz. The old monitor works just peachy with the DVI signal. I unplug it, plug in the replacement and no dice. Only works on 1280 x 1024 resolution. I put it up to 1600 x 1200 and the replacement goes black. The old one has no problem with 1600 x 1200. Im a computer engineering major here at college, so Im well versed with diagnosing computer problems. This one has stumped me.

[AriZoNaiCe]

Sounds like a bum monitor to me...I'd call Dell and have it taken care of ASAP. Perhaps a wrong model panel in a mis-labeled shell? Who knows...Just make sure you get it all taken care of within the first 21 days. Good luck, and please...keep us posted.

- Brian

[AriZoNaiCe]

Oh yeah, and bigskinny...How is ur monitor doin'? Still lovin' it? ;)

- Brian

[LordStryker]

Been going back and forth with dell via email the past few days. I have massive computer programming assignments as well as work, so I dont have time to be on the phone with them. So far i've gotten the "try putting it to 60hz, make sure the comptuer is not in power save mode." I've tried all that. What it comes down to is when i have the old monitor plugged in it works. I unplug it, plug in the replacement monitor and it doesnt work. Unplug the replacement and replug in the old one and it works again. Im 99% convinced I got sent a bum monitor.

[AriZoNaiCe]

Sounds like it to me man...That really sucks. I would just tell them that you are TOTALLY unsatisfied, and if they can't find a way to resolve the problem immediately that you will cancel the order and purchase somewhere else. Light a fire under their butts and see where it gets you. Good luck man, and keep us posted.

- Brian

[Ebby]

Hi,

I'm ready to pick up the fp2001 but can't seem to get a 25% off of a flat panel from the darn Dellf. Can anyone help me out? PM me.

Thanks

[AriZoNaiCe]

Sorry man, I just tried for you, but I also got some random crappy coupon. I'll try again tomorrow. Maybe if a bunch of people in this forum give it a shot, we can come up with a solid coupon for 25% off for ya. Good luck man, keep us posted.

- Brian

[bigskinny99]

Mr. Arizona

I've been nunning factory presets and they seem fine to me!

This thing is damn near perfect!!! if not perfect!!!

[bigskinny99]

20% off

$W$SLTM7NSWC37

[AriZoNaiCe]

Nice work bigskinny...I'm sure he'll thank you when he sees it. However, you might have considered putting that into a PM to him so that no one else uses it. :)

- Brian

[firstadopter]

Please post all Dell coupon codes and sales discussion in the Dell Coupon Sale forum:

http://www.firstadopter.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=355

I would like to keep these forums uncluttered with coupon messages that expire every few days.

[AriZoNaiCe]

Thanx Rendition :)

[Ebby]

Thanks, for the codes everyone. I do have an extra 20% coupon if anyone wants it. You PM me. I was fortunate to get a 25% LCD coupon.

Sorry Rendition.

[chaddc33]

Had this monitor since March and love it! Just curious if anyone has noticed that this monitor 'creaks' a lot when it's on and then when it's turned off - almost like when it heats up and cools down? It's not a big deal but it kinda annoying. Actually, if I press the plastic on the outside it creaks like crazy! At work we ordered one about a week ago and it doesn't do this at all. Wonder if it's just the early ones that did this?? It sounds like an old house that's settling!!

A problem I have been having is that occasionally when turning the computer on and the monitor, the display doesn't come on. If the computer has already booted into Windows, I have to turn off and then turn back on the monitor. Someone mentioned it might have to do with the DVI cable quality? I have the one that came with it from Dell. I think I saw somewhere that changing the cable fixed this but it seems odd that you'd have to go to that length? Thanks!!

[bigskinny99]

Sorry.

Shoulda PM'ed instead.

[AriZoNaiCe]

chaddc3...I can't say I've heard of that before. You should perhaps make sure that all is well. I guess since you've had it since March, things must be okay. As long as you're enjoying it, that's all that matters. Mine is really quiet, but who knows...Could be a per monitor thing. Anyone else heard of that?

- Brian

[firstadopter]

chaddc33, my 2001FP definitely creaks once in a while. I think it's just because the plastic isn't the greatest quality.

I don't mind it that much though because the 2001FP is a such a great deal. I don't want to spend double the price of a 2001FP just to get a metal casing that never creaks.

Also I had that problem early on. I just boot the computer first, wait 30 seconds, and then turn on the monitor. It works everytime.

I think it has to do with some DVI issue, where the graphics card doesn't output DVI until the computer is up and running for a little while, but that is a guess.

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hmm...So strange, mine doesn't creak, and I also don't have any of the DVI issues that I've heard about. That might be a PCI Express thing that has fixed those DVI issues though, who knows.

- Brian

PS: Rendition, what is the primary display set to in your bios?

[firstadopter]

Bios? The monitor driver is Digital 2001FP with ATI 9700. Don't think there is a BIOS setting.

[AriZoNaiCe]

I was talking about the System BIOS...Meaning if you go into the System BIOS and select "First Display" or something like that...Make sure it's AGP. And then perhaps your Video Card will respond better. It's just a suggestion, I haven't had that problem, but I don't know what else could cause it aside from a Video Card quirk. Lemme know what happens.

- Brian

[bigskinny99]

No creaks here!
Only me after sitting too long!!!
Hope it doesn't develop here.

[cmaxb]

Mine creak all the time!

Usually, the more white being shown, the worse it is. Must be the plastic heating up. After a while, they reach equilibrium.

[curly]

Recieved my Dell today and i have 2 dead PIXELS!!!!!!!

1 is showing red all the time and the other one is showing green all the time!!!

What shall i do?

/Curly (sooooo disappointed)

[AriZoNaiCe]

I think I would send it back if they bother you. Mine don't bother me, so I'm gonna keep it. Both of mine are green btw. Good luck curly!

- Brian

[firstadopter]

SEND IT BACK. Obviously it bothers you. :)

[AriZoNaiCe]

Yep, I'm with Rend on this one...It seems to bother you based on your response...Send that sucker back! But, tell them that it's something else wrong so they'll "drop-ship" you another one. Something like, "The left side is quite a bit brighter than the right." ;)

- Brian

[vorpel]

Just joined this board and did some reading of this and the 2005FPW thread.

I currently have 2 Dell 2001FP monitors and my wife has a Dell 2000FP.

I came across a deal that I thought others that have any of these monitors would be interested in. CompGeeks.com currently has a like new OEM Innovative flat panel monitor arm for $72 plus shipping (see below).

I have ordered three of these, but have not received them yet. Here's the link:

http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ERGOARM&cat=MON

Down towards the bottom of the page they reference the following links for infomration about this product:

http://www.lcdarms.com/adapter/adapter.asp
http://www.lcdarms.com/faq/75mm_100mm.asp

I'll post back when I get the monitor arm in and installed (should arrive on the 10th, and I should have it put up this weekend).

The price listed is $79.99, however during checkout you can enter "TECHBARGAINS" as a promotional code
that will take 10% off.

Thanks and I'm glad to find such an active discussion group on these monitors.

-DC

[NEODARK]

so I got my LCD as well, the backlighting doesnt seem like an issue, however I have 1 stuck green pixel all the time, thats what?

a dead subpixel?

anyway this monitor is gorgeous in windows, however when playing games, like half life there is this like milky layer on the screen, its too bright, i've tried messing with the driver settings of my 6800GT, but i cannot get it to go away...

what are your settings guys?

driver settings/LCD settings?

the green pixel is about 3 inches down from the center of the screen, its not to notisable, but its starting to make me ponder...

PS: I also installed the driver for the 2001FP :)

[pat8]

I had one dead pixel when I originally got mine. I gently rubbed the area and it went away, haven't seen it since.

[AriZoNaiCe]

You were lucky...I tried rubbing mine, but it wouldn't go away. I was really really gentle though, I was a bit nervous.

As far as my settings go for gaming, I like mine to be pretty bright because it allows me to see into some darker areas. However, I DON'T set the brightness on the monitor any higher than 50, which is default. Also, I have the contrast a bit lower than normal on the video card for gaming, which eliminates some of that "milky" film you described. Good luck, and let us know what happens.

- Brian

[pat8]

Wondering, do you folks use Clear Type on Windows XP for more readable text ? I've been going back and forth with it, seems to make some text clearer but some fonts seem "muddy" when enabled.

[NEODARK]

you guys are doing all these brightness/contrast adjustments trough the videocard's drivers right?

I cannot access those controls through my LCD's OSD, they are grayed out, I heard something about DVI input doing this I think...

Im new to LCD's as well, this is my first and the image rocks, but blaks look washed out, I thought the contrast ratio would be better, however when in dark areas, I cant se anything..

so I'll try what AriZoNaiCe suggested by LOWERING the contrast, as I was doing the opposite lastnight before I saw this..

PS also for the post above, yes im using clear type, but its funky at times, some letter edges look grenish or redish, dunno why this is...

[AriZoNaiCe]

Cleartype is awful in my opinion...I can't possibly see using it for any length of time. It does look VERY muddy, and I'm not just seeing that on the 2001FP., I also see it on my laptop which is a UXGA.

Are both of your controls in the OSD greyed out? Meaning both "Contrast" and "Brightness?" Because on mine I do get control of my brightness, but contrast is greyed out. I also use DVI. Maybe it has to do with the video card it's connected to? I use an X600XT

- Brian

[NEODARK]

yup, the brightness works, I set mine to like 35.

as for the contrast via drivers, I set it to like 95% and it helped some, but anything lower than that looked muddier...

I think im just too used to pure black.

however the image is still fantastic, and now is much better than before, thanks for the info :)

[MudDog]

Vorpel said:
I currently have 2 Dell 2001FP monitors and my wife has a Dell 2000FP.


Hi Vorpel,

Seeing as you are familiar with both of these monitors (2001FP and 2005FPW), I would really appreciate it if you could share with me your impression of these two monitors.

I placed an order some time ago with Dell for a system with the 20" 2001FP...it is a long story, but after 4 systems being sent to me (all with either the wrong components from what I ordered or systems that simply did not work) I now think (hope...have not put it together yet...) I might have a functional system.

During this process the 2005FPW came out however and, before I put this all together, I am wondering if maybe this new 2005FPW might be a better route to go. Although, I am a little concerned in that I have been reading about a large number of people reporting problems with their new 2005FPWs (bad pixels, brightness problems in screen corners, etc.).

From your experience, which screen type do you prefer?
Thank you Vorpel, I really appreciate your help!

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hey muddog, although I don't have any "real world" experience with the 2005FPW, I can tell you this. In this same forum, in the 2005FPW thread, you will find on page 9 a diagram showing how the two monitors (2001FP and 2005FPW) line up based on size. They also have a table with the total square inches offered on both monitors. This table is what ultimately made my decision for me (2001FP). You will see that the 2001FP actually has over 10 square inches more viewable screen than the 2005FPW. I hope this helps you make your decision, and I hope you finally get a working system!

- Brian

[MudDog]

Brian-

Thank you so much for your help...I really appreciate it!!

I am particularly happy to learn that the 2001 has more viewable screen (and that you chose that one). I feel much better about keeping the one I have then.

There is something to be said for a "taller" screen I guess...less scrolling. And the fact that it has been out for a while, perhaps less bugs. I received a letter from a Dell tech where I had asked him if what I had been hearing about 2005 problems was true (bad pixels, brightness "blotches" in corners)...he said yes, they were having a lot of problems. I appreciated his candor.

This comes just after customer support informed me (about 20 minutes ago) that it is easy to switch a like monitor for another (ie 2001 for 2001). It is more of a "problem" to switch different monitors (creates warranty "issues"). If the difference were significant I'd go after the issue, but your info saves me a lot of wasted phone time.

Thanks again Brian...I feel better!
-Jeff

[AriZoNaiCe]

Not a problem my friend...Anytime Jeff. If you ever have ANY questions, feel free to ask. As far as the decision to keep the 2001FP...Smooth move ;)

Anyways fellas, make sure you're happy with your monitors within the first 21 days so that if you're not, you can still exchange it :)

- Brian

[pat8]

Thanks for the responses. Noticed I sometimes get a red/green border around fonts when using Clear type, solved by changing the LCD Screen Striping in the Clear type advanced settings from B/G/R to R/G/B.

Was going to add a screenshot to show but can't figure out how to do on this board, my account doesn't have permissions to add attachments.

Pat

[KnockOut]

BTW, does anyone know what to use to clean the LCD screen? This was talked about a while back in this forum but I can't find it for some reason...

[AriZoNaiCe]

I think the answer was something to the effect of...Avoid using any products with ammonia or other harmful cleaning products such as bleach. I think if you avoid those, you'll be alright.

[AriZoNaiCe]

I just found a pretty decent answer on Yahoo. I think it was written by a Yahoo tech, but who knows.

"You don't have to turn the monitor off before cleaning it, but this will help you see the smudges and smears. If your screen is merely dusty, you can wipe gently with a soft, cotton cloth or try a can of compressed air. But if your screen is downright grungy, you might have to resort to some tougher tactics.

Though some people recommend using Windex, ethyl alcohol and ammonia-based cleaners can yellow your flat-screen or laptop monitor over time, so it is best to avoid such products. You can find an array of commercial products specifically designed to clean LCD screens, but you may prefer to just head to your kitchen and mix up your own solution. Plain old water can do the trick, or you can concoct a solution of vinegar and water or isopropyl alcohol and water.

Always use a soft cotton cloth, rather than a rag or paper towel to wipe the screen. Some people recommend special electrostatic cloths, like those used to clean eyeglasses treated with anti-glare finish, or even dryer sheets. Apply the cleaning solution to your cloth rather than directly to the screen and wipe in one direction -- from the top of the screen to the bottom.

One final word of warning, never touch or press on your LCD screen with your fingers as this can cause the pixels to burn out. "

I would probably use water and vinegar. Now everyone go clean your screens!!! hehe

- Brian

[curly]

I sent it back.... i hate dead pixels...

The wont switch it for me so i obviously had to send it back...

I also odered a new one, and i really hope this one is better....

So.. the long wait begins... 2 weeks..

Please, please dear GOD... no dead pixels this time!!!

PS. what are the chances that i get 2 monitors with dead pixels...???

[KnockOut]

Thanks Brian!

[AriZoNaiCe]

I'm not sure...I decided not to take that chance, simply because of the crazy waiting period. BTW...I did mention in one of my earlier posts that if you want to swap it because of dead pixels that you need to tell them that it's something different making you unhappy. The easiest one is something to the effect of uneven brightness on either side. Then they have to swap it out and you won't be without a monitor. If you have any other problems then you should try that.

- Brian

[chaddc33]

I talked to Dell yesterday and they offered to exchange my monitor because of some problems I've been having with it. Do they typically ship an entirely new unit - base and all? Or just the display itself? Reason I ask is I look on the Order Status and it shows the following:

Display,Flat Panel,20,D,2001, Flat Panel,MG,DAO

It looks almost like it is just the display they are exchanging? Which is fine with me - I'm really just more curious more than anything what is typically done. I have no idea what the 'MG' and 'DAO' are?? Thanks!

[EzyRider]

I'm new to the world of LCD's - are dead pixels a problem across all brands of LCD's? Generally speaking, is Dell better or worse than others (Samsung, LG, Viewsonic, etc.)?

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hmm...I don't know if they would send the whole base unit and stuff. I will say this, the way they ship the entire unit is really secure. If they were to ship just the panel, I don't know if they would do as nice of a job since it's not a retail type of thing. Who knows. Maybe someone else will have a better answer. ;)

As for dead pixels...Yeah, they are a problem across the board :( However, Dell ranks above almost all others in quality and testing, so it happens less often with their monitors. And, their warranty policy is a bit more lenient of the dead pixel problem, which leads me to believe that they have more faith in their product: much like with seagate and their warranty policy. Hope I answered your question.

- Brian

[shrikedoa]

Hi all,

Ordered my 2001FP on the 3rd, it arrived on the 13th. No dead pixels and backlight seems even. Colors are bright and vivid (almost too bright, I need to tweak them down still).

Connecting through DVI to an Nvidia 6800 GT. AMD 64 3300, 1 gig ram.

ClearType is installed and windows looks gorgeous. Fonts are crisp and readable.

Game testing so far has been with HL2 and CS:S. Everything is smooth and pretty. The only ghosting I see is minor blurring during fast rotations, and during actual gameplay I'm too busy to notice.

So after some trepidation and buyers remorse, I'm a happy camper.

Does anyone know what's involved in adding my old crt as a second monitor?

[AriZoNaiCe]

shrikedoa,
If you want to add your CRT as a second monitor, all you should have to do is:
1. Plug it in to the second port of your video card.
2. Right click on the desktop and select properties.
3. Click on the settings tab at the top.
4. Pull the dropdown menu that has your video card listed underneath the picture and select whichever one is NOT currently selected.
5. Change the resolution to whatever you would like it to be on THAT monitor. (You should see the #2 box in the picture changing at this point.)
6. Select the checkbox at the bottom labled "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor."
7. Apply and OK and you should be all set.

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.

- Brian

PS: Sorry to have gotten extra simple on you as you seem to know your way around a computer, but someone else who is not as knowledgable may read this as well.

[chaddc33]

Ok so I just got my replacement 2001FP from Dell today. I'm a little surprised - it's a refurbished one. It came in this huge box with basically the monitor attached to the base and everything with just a piece of thin plastic over the display. It obviously has been used, although it's a newer model - September 2004. Mine is January 2003. I haven't tried to see if it works because I kind of expected the monitor to just be a straight replacement. Anyone have any experiences with this? I believe they are entitled to give refurbs as replacements. Guess it just bothers me that it was packaged like this - and considering how much money I spent origionally, well....

[AriZoNaiCe]

chaddc33,
I totally agree. I would call them and complain about the fact that you paid however much money initially for a new piece of equipment, and that you're just not happy with a refurb. See what they say, I think if you argue enough they will have to do something.

- Brian

PS: Let us know how it turns out.

[chaddc33]

I think I will call again and insist on a new unit. I haven't taken the unit out yet to test it or anything. I did call Support and they said it was a Customer Care issue. Then I called Support back and couldn't get through too quickly. It may be a new unit just tested but I guess it just bothers me just the same. Why replace something with something that's already had a chance to have issues with it...

[chaddc33]

Ok, I just called Support and they would NOT send me a new unit. They said anytime they have exchanges this is what they do. It's not necessarily a used unit (well, of course they would say that). I got the impression from other posts on here that their exchanges were brand new?? Perhaps they only do that when your monitor is 90 days old or less. I just could not get them to change their stance, though. They said the warranty still goes for 3 years on these. I guess I have no choice but to try it and see. I mean, they did send this unit overnight to me so I shouldn't whine too much. Just always a better feeling to open a fresh new box and have some peace of mind I guess. Is that crazy, sure, but everyone thinks that way. Right?? :)

[AriZoNaiCe]

I totally agree with you, but testing it out and seeing what you've got can't hurt. I'm do know from a friend that used to work at Dell in the Small Business Department that sometimes they have pieces that are new, but didn't get packaged right the first time, and those become part of the group that gets shipped out as replacements. I don't know if that was the case for you, but if it works beautifully...Who could complain, right?

- Brian

[chaddc33]

Well I've setup the replacement monitor and all is perfect. I looked it over and it looked brand new to be honest. It actually is better constructed than my old one - which could be just because it's a lot newer in revision (mine was MFG. in Nov. 2003 - this one in Sept. 2004). Don't see any dead pixels at all.

My problems with the monitor were the annoying popping/creaking (it was getting worse every day - it would pop every few seconds and not stop until it was totally cold). The bigger problem is it just wouldn't display a picture always when turning it on - even after the computer had been turned on first. It was fine when I first got it then started about a month ago. Had to turn it off and then back on to get it to work. It was happening a lot - and I did try a different cable. So I felt it was worth replacing and so far both are alleviated. In the end I would say that the Dell Refurbs are a-ok!! At least in my one experience here :)

[Larrys]

Sitting on the fence trying to decide which display to order, the 2001Fp or the 2005FPW. Anyone want to flip a coin for me or give me a convincing argument as to which one I can't live without.
Can someone tell me what the display area measurements are on the 2001FP.
Does anyone know the pixel sizes on these 2 monitors.

Sitting here scratching my head over this.

Thanks
Larry

[AriZoNaiCe]

Hey Larrys, although I don't have any "real world" experience with the 2005FPW, I can tell you this. In this same forum, in the 2005FPW thread, you will find on page 9 a diagram showing how the two monitors (2001FP and 2005FPW) line up based on size. They also have a table with the total square inches offered on both monitors. This table is what ultimately made my decision for me (2001FP). You will see that the 2001FP actually has over 10 square inches more viewable screen than the 2005FPW. I hope this helps you make your decision. Let me know what you decide.

- Brian

PS: Yeah, this was an answer I gave to someone else a few pages back...I was too lazy to rewrite another one :) Question for you all...Can you plagerize yourself? I had a professor tell me that I can't hand the same work in for two different classes, that the school considers it plagarism...Is that possible? Illegal to plagarize yourself!?

[NEODARK]

some more libel below:


2001FP - 16.1in x 12.1in - area = 194.81 inches sqaure

2005FPW - 17in x 10.7in - area = 181.9 inches square

[chaddc33]

Maybe all is not perfect :( When I turn the monitor on I get this high pitched whine that goes away after a minute. If it comes back from sleep mode it does the same thing. My other monitor never did this, and 2 we have at my work don't either. Anyone else having this?

[AriZoNaiCe]

I'm actually sorry to say that I am NOT having that whine issue :( That upsets me because now you know you have to send the monitor back...Will they ship it to you next day, or perhaps cross-ship? Sorry man, that really sucks!

- Brian

[chaddc33]

Thanks, yea it upsets me too :( I mean I suppose I myself shouldn't whine about it but it is an annoying sound - and disturbing when other monitors don't do that. I called them and after about 25 minutes they relented (we had to go through the whole did you try it on another computer, change the refresh rate, try a different cable, etc). They said they would ship it overnight as a refurbished unit. I went into that with them again and he confirmed that after 21 days from the purchase date they never exchange any peripherals with new items. So what you get may be something that someone refused, or it was used just a little bit. But he said that the refurbs they test 10 times where new items are only tested once. Who knows it's that's true?? I would think after 10 times someone's ears would have picked this up :)

[AriZoNaiCe]

I agree, you'd think that they would've noticed...Oh well, hopefully this time is better...Good luck! And keep us informed.

- Brian

PS: No dead pixels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Simpatico]

I've been following this forum for several weeks getting as much info on the 2001fp as possible. I've been toying with the idea of wheather or not to buy one for the longest. There have been several excellent reviews, questions and answers. The reviews that I have read plus the deep discounts I received are what made me decide to go ahead and pull the trigger.

I ordered a 2001fp on Thanksgiving Day and received it on the 10th. I used a 25% off flat panel coupon and a stackable $50 off $450 and free shipping. The total including tax(since I live in Texas) was a little less than $600, which was my goal.

Its got a beautiful black frame around the screen and a silver base that matches the rest of my 'puter perfectly.

It doesn't have any dead pixels, bad sub pixels or any back lighting issues as far as I can tell at this point. I also haven't noticed any of the issues that some of the previous posters have inquired about such as the popping and cracking noises of the plastic framework or the high pitch sounds. Its a perfect monitor so far as I can tell [**no-jinx, no-jinx**]

This is my first LCD and I can't begin to explain the clarity and resolution of this LCD compared to my 3 year old old 19" Viewsonic CRT. Its incredable!

I do have a couple questions that I hope some of you more knowledgeable people are familiar with...
First off, my rig has an AMD 2800, BFG GeForce 6800GT using the DVI port and Windows 98SE.

1) I cannot figure out how to adjust the &#!$ contrast setting. I can adjust the brightness just fine but when I want to move from the brightness to the contrast setting, it only toggles back to exit. The contrast setting actually looks "grayed" out.
I've read in the documentation that certain adjustments won't work depending on your connection method i.e. s-video, d-sub, DVI etc. but nothing about DVI connection and contrast adjustment. I'm baffeled.

2) Is there an easy way to adjust the size of everything when set to the 1600X1200 resolution mode using 98SE? I finally figured out how to enlarge the font size and icons but there are several other items in everyday viewing that are still so small that it can't be read. I guess I'm looking for a "one adjustment fits all" setting. Maybe there is no easy way using Win98.

Sorry about the drawn out post as i can tell most of you have been lulled into a coma by now. Hope some of you have made it this far.

Thanks!!

[AriZoNaiCe]

Simpatico,
I'm glad to hear that you got a "perfect" new LCD!!! It's exciting, isn't it? Anyways...As far as the contrast, you can't change that unless you are using an Analog connection. You can change this through your video card however, so feel free to toy with that. To get to those settings you'll need to right click on "desktop," select "Properties," and then select the "settings" tab at the top. Next go click on "Advanced" to get to the "adapter settings," and then you should find, depending on your drivers, some brightness/color/contrast settings.

As far as changing things to look larger...You shouldn't need to with a monitor this size. It will just take some getting used to. I keep this monitor about 3 feet away while reading/typing/anything else, and I don't have any issues with the 1600x1200. However, if you find that it's still a problem...Perhaps you should use a lower resolution and let the monitor interpolate...Give it a shot and see how it turns out.

Good luck and enjoy!

- Brian

PS: Get Windows XP Professional :)

[Simpatico]

AriZoNaiCe -

Hey thanks for the info. I did find the contrast adjustment on my video card settings and performed a little fine tuning. I just thought it a little odd that I could adjust the brightness but wasn't able to adjust the contrast using my monitor's adjustment settings.

I reduced my resolution setting to 1024X768 from the 1600X1200 setting and that increased the size of everything quite a bit or at least large enough that I can live with it.

Yeah, I know I need XP. I just hate putting more $$ into the pocket of the world's most wealthiest person. Just doesn't seem right. Next time I reformat my hard drive, I'm sure I'll break down and bite the bullet.

[pat8]

You might want to change the dpi setting vice the resolution. Go to control panel, display, settings, advanced, general and change to large size (or custom). That way everything is larger yet you are still running at the native resolution (much clearer).